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Tarnished gold (Part 1)

First posting: June 30, 2007

E-mailed: June 6, 2007

Word received by: John Edwards



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It has been some time ago, a year, maybe more, that I had another dream. Because of the dream itself and your interpretations of Duct tape 1 & 2, I feel impressed to share this one with you too.

Basically, I am walking up a Mt., somewhat hunched over due to the Mountain's incline. The overall color is of tarnished gold with dark outlines of everything. I am walking upwards. I am looking around, I see multiple copies of the same lady wearing a 50s-style farm-type dress; but she is right next to me at one part, then at a distance later on in the dream. The one thing that catches my eye is an old car, like a Delta 88 (Oldsmobile) type, late 70/early 80's. This car is going up the Mt. (on my left) with a bunch on men in it, waving at me. Then I see the same car heading [i.e.- facing] upwards but going backwards on my right side. In the dream, people are coming and going, some in cars, on bikes or, like me, they are walking, but they all at one time or another in their up-the-hill stance going backward.

So they are facing upwards, yet walking backwards. The car once goes up the hill, then, on my right side, is still facing upwards but heading backwards.

The overall color reminds me of severely tarnished gold with a green hue to it, but the color blankets the whole dreamscape.




Our comments

Parousia Mountain

The climb up the mountain represents the uphill struggle to unleash the latter-rain manifestation of God on Earth. God's shekinah presence is at the mountaintop, and, once God's people reach the mountaintop and behold God face to Face, the Glory of God shall be fully released into the Earth; that is when the Lord's parousia (i.e.- His coming) shall be upon us.


"1The earth is the LORDíS, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

2For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

3Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

4He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

5He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

6This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.

7Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

8Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

9Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah." (Psalm 24)

[Notice that the coming of the Lord implies Him being revealed as "the Lord mighty in battle" (v8) and as "the Lord of hosts" (v10), not as "the Lord of sweet kindness" or as "the Lord of happiness". Therefore, God's visitation implies the dethroning of the matriarchal paradigms that deny God's "male" warrior nature.]


Saved to suffer

The dreamer represents God's lonely remnant of latter-rain believers. The fact that the dreamer was hunched over during his uphill climb speaks of the heavy burden that God's remnant are carrying so that God's glory may be manifested on Earth. As the remnant are climbing up the hill, they are carrying a cross on their backs, suffering for the sake of others, for, as we have said before, they understand that "waiting for the Lord" is a Body-centred endeavour, a travailing in prophetic sacrifice that is bent on "communistic" sharing. Those who "wait" for the coming of the Lord in a "me-centred" way have no burden for the Church on their shoulders. These "trekkie" believers don't want to carry any extra weight as they wait to be "lifted up" and away from any heavy dose of suffering on Earth. These believers equate "salvation" with "escape from suffering", without understanding that "salvation" is actually "escape from the loss of eternal value" and that those who follow the path of salvation are not called away from suffering, but rather into it.


"13Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: 14And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name. 15But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my nameís sake." (Acts 9:13-16)

[Had Paul not been saved, he would have led a comfortable life as a Pharisaic scholar, instead of the life laden with suffering that he endured.]


"8Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: 9Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. 10Therefore I endure all things for the electís sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." (2 Timothy 2:8-10)

[Notice the word "also" in the middle of verse 10. This means that Paul the sufferer considered himself to be living out his "salvation" (v10), which clearly reveals that he saw no contradiction between "salvation" and "suffering". In a subtle way, the word "also" in verse 10 insinuates that Paul also wanted those around him to share in his suffering, since that suffering was inherent in God's salvation (Philippians 3:17-21).]


"10But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." (2 Timothy 3:10-13)

[As revealed by the meanings of each of the cities mentioned in verse 11, "Antioch" (meaning "driven against") points to the red horse of conflict, "Iconium" (meaning "little image, likeness") to the black horse of God's image impartation, and "Lystra" (meaning "ransoming") to the green horse of ransoming by paying the Sheol price.]


Even though verse 11 declares that Paul was "rescued" from persecutions and sufferings at Antioch, Iconium, and Lystra, he was not spared suffering in those places. Therefore, the "rescue" that verse 11 refers to speaks of how God rescued Paul from those places so that he could continue on his way to other places and thus complete his calling. This means that the "rescue" of verse 11 is a rescue of Paul's prophetic calling, preserving it so that it could be completed. When you are walking on the path of salvation, you will suffer crucifixion and piercing on the side, but the "bones" of your calling cannot be broken, for the enemy may torture you unto death, but he cannot forcibly snatch your calling away from you (John 19:30-33). The only way for you to lose your calling is if you voluntarily hand it over to the enemy, in the same way that Judas did. When Judas handed Yeshua over to the enemy, he handed over his calling, for Yeshua was the personification of what Judas had been called to be.


Those who are on the path of salvation carry the salvation of others on their shoulders. They are as priests who are willing to carry a burden down to the Sheol depths of the Jordan so that the Promised Land may be opened unto others.


"10And Joshua said, Hereby ye shall know that the living God is among you, and that he will without fail drive out from before you the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Hivites, and the Perizzites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Jebusites. 11Behold, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth passeth over before you into Jordan. 12Now therefore take you twelve men out of the tribes of Israel, out of every tribe a man. 13And it shall come to pass, as soon as the soles of the feet of the priests that bear the ark of the LORD, the Lord of all the earth, shall rest in the waters of Jordan, that the waters of Jordan shall be cut off from the waters that come down from above; and they shall stand upon an heap." (Joshua 3:10-13)


Saved into judgements

The fact that the dreamer was hunched over also points to how God's remnant have the weight of God's hand over them, and His hand is a heavy hand of pressurising judgements.


"The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones" (Ezekiel 37:1)


"9With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. 10Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD. 11LORD, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them." (Isaiah 26:9-11)


When the hand of God's pressurising judgements weighs heavy over you, you will become an oft-involuntary pronouncer of unpleasant judgements on Earth:


"7O LORD, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived: thou art stronger than I, and hast prevailed: I am in derision daily, every one mocketh me. 8For since I spake, I cried out, I cried violence and spoil; because the word of the LORD was made a reproach unto me, and a derision, daily. 9Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay. 10For I heard the defaming of many, fear on every side. Report, say they, and we will report it. All my familiars watched for my halting, saying, Peradventure he will be enticed, and we shall prevail against him, and we shall take our revenge on him. 11But the LORD is with me as a mighty terrible one: therefore my persecutors shall stumble, and they shall not prevail: they shall be greatly ashamed; for they shall not prosper: their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten." (Jeremiah 20:7-11)


Contrary to the matriarchal Church's popular belief, God's salvation does not "relieve" us from His judgements, but rather draws us into them, for it is through His purifying judgements that our salvation is completed.


"26And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city. 27Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness." (Isaiah 1:26-27)


"1It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his fatherís wife. 2And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one unto satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth." (1 Corinthians 5:1-8)


Notice that the above passage, written by Paul, calls believers to pronounce judgements on a person who is already a believer so that his "spirit" may be "saved" in the day of the Lord (v5). According to Ephesians 4:24, Colossians 3:10, Romans 8:1-5 (all written by Paul as well) and 1 John 3:1-10, the new "spirit man" that is formed in us when we are born again is sinless, fashioned after God (it is the soul that sins, not our new spirit man). Therefore, when Paul pronounced judgements on the Corinthian believer so that his spirit might be saved, he was not saying that the Corinthian's spirit had "sin stains" and required "salvation cleansing". Instead, Paul (i.e.- the Spirit of God in Paul) was pronouncing judgements on the sinful Corinthian believer so that his spirit might be saved from eternal "dwarfdom", for though your God-given spirit man is sinless, he has yet to grow, and he cannot grow whilst your soul remains in control. We are allotted a limited amount of time in this world during which to grow. If our hearts take recalcitrant stances that oppose the Spirit, the growth of our spirit man will become stunted, and we will be forever distanced from God, for an incomplete (though sinless) spirit cannot abide with Him forever. This is the reason why even Jesus needed to be "perfected" (i.e.- completed) so that He could stand before the Father as a priest forever.


"6As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; 10Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. 11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." (Hebrews 5:6-14)

[Notice how verse 9 establishes a spiritual linkage between "being made perfect" (i.e.- being completed) and "eternal salvation". Notice also how this passage goes from speaking about Jesus' completion process (v7-9) to speaking about the slow spiritual growth of believers (v12-14).]


"17For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator." (1 Peter 4:17-19)

[Notice how the first who come under judgement are those in the "house of God", i.e.- those who are already on the path of salvation. Notice also how verse 18 clearly declares, "... if the righteous scarcely be saved ...", which makes it evident that "salvation" is a process that is not necessarily completed by all. As we have said so many times before, this "salvation" is much more than an issue of going to literal hell or not. Those who simplistically blind their understanding and reduce the term "salvation" to the mere issue of going to hell haven't the foggiest idea what God is talking about when He speaks of "salvation" throughout Scripture.


Notice also how this passage establishes a spiritual linkage between attaining full salvation (v18) and suffering "according to the will of God" (v19).]


As shown by the New Testament passages quoted above, the idea of "judgements to perfect our salvation" is not an "Old Testament" concept. Judgements are "God's perfecting oven", and, without them, our salvation is left incomplete and we are doomed to suffer eternal, irreversible loss when God's wrath is poured upon us on that final day (1 Thessalonians 1:10). Thus, our walk in life is to redeem us from the wrath of God that produces eternal loss, not from His righteous judgements, for, it is His righteous judgements which ironically redeem us from His dreadful and irreversible wrath judgement.


"10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every manís work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every manís work of what sort it is. 14If any manís work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any manís work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:10-15)

[The phrase "suffer loss" in verse 15 is a mistranslation of the Greek verb zemioo, which literally means "suffer damage", and has the connotation of violence; thus, verse 15 should read, "If any man's work is burned, he shall suffer damage...". The word zemioo is related to the word damazo meaning "to curb, restrain". Thus, the "loss suffered" referred to by the King James translators in verse 15 is actually a violent and irreversible damage suffered by the believer as God exposes him to His wrath. This damage will reveal that the believer's growth was "curbed" or "restrained" by the believer's own foolish heart. He will be saved from literal hell, but not unto eternal life. His whole house, i.e.- his covering, shall be reduced to dust, and he will stand "shamefully naked" before the Lord. Disrobed, he will be unworthy to stand before the Lord, and he shall be banned from His close presence forever. What happened in the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:9,23) will happen again, only at another level. Unlike God's first rejection at the garden of Eden, this second rejection from God's close presence shall be irrevocable, as indicated in the next passage.]


"4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned" (Hebrews 6:4-8)


"23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29For our God is a consuming fire. " (Hebrews 12:23-29)


Notice that the above are all "New Testament" passages. They certify, therefore, that the "Old Testament" God of judgements did not die at Calvary. You can pull a Sun-blocking shade over you and pretend as if the Sun no longer exists, but the Sun will still be there, and the day will come when your shade shall be pulled from over you, and, when it is, your self-deceived soul will be forced to suffer the eternal consequences of her foolishness.


"14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety." (1 Timothy 2:14-15)


"9Even him, whose coming is after the working of satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12)

[Notice how Paul boldly claims that God will act in such a way so as to cause those who do not believe the truth to be damned. Wasn't the God of "New Testament love" supposed to have forsaken His "Old Testament" ways at Calvary? Wasn't God supposed to be out trying to "save" everybody? How could God purposely send a strong delusion so as to damn those who do not believe the truth? Would a God of "love" do that? Apparently, He would, and He is doing it. God's love is different from what man understands "love" to be.]


"5Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: 6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. 11Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ." (2 Thessalonians 1:5-12)

[There goes the "New Testament" again talking about the "righteous judgment of God" (v5). Notice also that we must be counted "worthy" of the kingdom of God, and that we "suffer" as we brave forth towards being found "worthy" (v5). These are all concepts that seem foreign to the matriarchal Church, even though they are repeated over and over again throughout both the Old and the New Testament.


Notice also that God is bent on "recompensing tribulation" (v6) to those who trouble His remnant, "taking vengeance" in "flaming fire" on those who do not "know Him" (v8). As we have studied before, to "know" Him has nothing to do with "going to a Christian church". Instead, it means knowing the judgements of God, for our ear to hear Him can only be developed as we constantly expose ourselves to His judgement word (Hebrews 4:12, Romans 10:17). As we hear how a person judges, we get to know how he is. We get to know the inner workings of his mind and character, and that is how we become able to hear his deeper thoughts. There is no way around this truth! Those who shield themselves from God's judgements miss out on the chance to know Him.]


As you are moulded by God's judgements, His truth is fashioned into your very being. Truth, however, has an "interesting" way of confronting any untruth or incomplete truth that may surround it, and those who are abiding in this untruth or half-truth shall be quick to attack the confronting truth, silent as that truth may be. Through its mere presence, truth will inevitably judge everything around it. Therefore, as God forges His truth in you, you will become Truth in the flesh, and your mere presence will radiate confrontational judgement all around you, even when you remain silent. Whenever you do speak, your Truth-centred words will be as daggers into the hearts of those around you who abide in unrighteousness. You will therefore become "infuriating" to the staunchly unrighteous. Even when you don't say a literal word, the Truth in you shall unabatedly radiate judgements all around you. As judgements forge Truth in you, the Truth in you will judge everything around you. God's judgements will operate within you first, and then out into the world through you. That is when you become a conduit of God's judgements on Earth.


In short, the fact that the dreamer was hunched over as he walked up the mountain in the dream means that, as you walk along the uphill path of salvation, you will carry two types of loads:


  1. A prophetic load

    God will save you into suffering, calling you to pay a prophetic price for the sake of others. As you bear this prophetic load, God's image shall be seen in you and His blood shall course through your veins.


  2. An apostolic load

    God will save you into judgements, which, as we have said before, are apostolic in nature. God's hand will weigh heavy over you, pressurising you into His likeness, and His flesh shall be fashioned over you.


These are loads that most believers are not interested in bearing, for they have deceived themselves into thinking that "salvation" is about having others do the heavy work for you. Such believers become wide-gate men and women who end up perishing as immature children in the wilderness, without reaching the Promised Land.


As we have said before, God's black-horse riders are apostle-prophets who launch God's judgements into the matriarchal Church from the black-horse wilderness outside. Thus, the prophetic-apostolic load represented by dreamer's "hunching over" points to a believer walking in the fullness of the black-horse anointing.


There is still much more to say regarding this dream. God willing, we will do so in a future posting.